Episode #1070
If your marriage feels more like a business arrangement than a real partnership, you’re not imagining it and you’re definitely not alone. In this episode, Doug sits down with his wife Erin to unpack what disconnection looks and feels like from a woman’s perspective.
They get real about how so many couples slowly drift apart, even when everything looks fine on the outside. Erin shares what’s happening under the surface when a woman pulls away, why she might seem cold, distant, or buried in her phone, and what she’s actually craving instead.
This isn’t theory. It’s not a lecture. It’s two people sharing what it’s really like when the spark fades, and what can help bring it back. They talk about the quiet resentment that builds over time, how to spot the signs that things are slipping, and how to approach your partner in a way that opens the door to real connection again, not more conflict or shutdown.
If you’re feeling stuck, or you just know you’re capable of more than a “meh” marriage, this is your starting point. You'll hear the small things that make a big difference, like how your energy impacts her more than your words. They also talk about what most men miss during postpartum and perimenopause that can quietly break the bond.
It’s honest, raw, and grounded in real experience, not fluff or surface-level tips. There’s no sugarcoating, just clarity on what it takes to shift from surviving to actually enjoying your relationship again. And if you’re tired of guessing or walking on eggshells, this episode gives you a clearer way forward.
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Doug Holt 0:00
But for whatever reason, the relationship’s got stale, and they’re roommates now. You can catch yourself being critical and mean toward your partner inside your head. I want to make this not a good marriage but a great marriage.
Erin Holt 0:12
It’s easier to avoid the red flag than face it, right? It just is.
Doug Holt 0:15
If you’re constantly doing the same things, it can become dull and boring.
Erin Holt 0:20
I started to feel like I was losing grip.
Doug Holt 0:23
Change it up. And when you’re growing, you’re always changing it up.
Erin Holt 0:27
It took me about two years after each child to feel like myself again.
Doug Holt 0:41
Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of The TPM Show. I am joined by my beautiful wife, who’s also a coach, and in this episode, she’s gonna represent all women across the world just kidding but we’re gonna get a woman’s point of view and go from there. So, babe, thanks for being here.
Erin Holt 0:58
Thanks for having me. Hi everyone.
Doug Holt 1:00
So today, let me set the scene. This happens in so many relationships whether they’ve been married one year, two, or fifty years. We just had one of our program advisors tell me we had a woman reach out through TPM. We have a lot of women who try to book calls with our advisors to get their husbands in, and she had been married fifty years and wants to get her husband in to bring back the spice and everything in the relationship and get him going, which I think is cool.
So let me set the scene for you. A couple gets married. They start building the dream what’s that dream gonna be? Maybe they build their own house. They start traveling a little bit. They’ve got the kids, the white picket fence some mixture of that. Somewhere along the way, they wake up one or both of them and they go, “Oh, we’re just roommates now. We just do logistics.”
You know, the man’s story could be, “Well, I’m out working all the time to provide for my family.” Her story could be, “Well, we’ve done everything to live his dreams.” But for whatever reason, the relationship’s got stale, and they’re roommates now. Talk to me from a woman’s perspective what does that look like?
Erin Holt 2:18
Oh, well, first of all, everybody’s hurting in that scenario, right? Whether you’re walking around saying it or not if you’re disconnected from your partner, you’re hurting on some level. It’s lonely. There’s probably some level of, “There has to be more.” She’s craving more depth, more connection, more sexuality, more fun.
She’s probably laying awake at night feeling stressed, like, “Oh gosh,” worrying about the state of their partnership, marriage, union. “Is he being faithful?” Because I know we’re not really connected. On some level, that might not be said out loud, but she’s probably feeling like she can never fully relax because her nervous system is always kind of tense and on. Do you want me to keep going?
Doug Holt 3:08
Sure, I mean, go for it.
Erin Holt 3:12
There’s part of her that probably because of the stress and her nervous system always being on, and she’s under this constant worry mode feels like she can never fully relax, even if she looks like she’s relaxing. So that makes her feel really tired and really exhausted, even if she’s “slept great.” It’s this emotional bone-tired feeling, and that stems from really caring about the relationship and what they’ve built and wanting to be connected to him.
Doug Holt 3:44
What does a bid for connection look like in that scenario from her?
Erin Holt 3:48
Like her trying to get connected to him? Oh boy. It’s a pretty blanket statement, but I don’t know do anything with him. Have a walk with him. At that stage, date nights might feel like a big stretch, but it’s just like, “Hey, can we sit down and talk?” Which also might feel hard, but she doesn’t know how else to connect right now.
It could be things like if she’s the primary one that cooks making meals that she knows he likes, just trying to be like, “Oh, look, I’m a great wife, let’s be connected. I made this lasagna that you love.” Like, “I thought of you.” And it might come off more prickly than loving.
The other thing that can happen and I’ve walked this road before too is the man might experience her as cold, because there’s part of her, when she’s in that survival mode, that it’s almost like her warmness gets shut off. Where it’s like she used to maybe bring down a plate of food if he was working from home and feel delighted to, from a place of love. But now she’s not doing those things because she’s hurting, she’s suffering. So she might feel more cold to the man, and also not have the bandwidth or honestly, the deep-down desire to do those things.
Doug Holt 5:04
Okay, so right now what I’m hearing from you is from a woman’s perspective she’s feeling disconnected, so therefore she’s coming across maybe more prickly. She wants that connection. A bid for connection could be, “Hey, let’s go for a walk,” or, “Let’s sit down and talk,” or what have you. What are some of the signs that a man should look for that this is occurring that there is disconnection?
Erin Holt 5:31
If she’s lost her spark because being connected to our man in particular, you guys make us shine if she’s lost that sparkiness, that playfulness, that relaxed energy, that flirty energy with you, it means she’s off in worry and stress land, survival mode, hurting mode.
Which is really hard for us as women to access the parts of ourselves that are feminine softer, flirty, fun, relaxed, nurturing, and sexy. Those are very hard for us to access when we can’t access our parasympathetic nervous system, which is when we’re able to relax. So… does that answer your question?
Doug Holt 6:18
It does. I know a lot of the answers, which is why it’s hard sometimes for me to ask the questions I have to pretend I don’t. But I think it’s good for the men to hear it from you versus just from me. They get it from the source, if you will.
So imagine, if you will, that we have women who listen to this show but mostly men. A guy’s listening to this, and he’s like, “Man, I want my woman to shine. I want her to feel connected. It just feels like every time I try, I get brushed off, denied, or rejected. Or she’s just in her phone.” I hear that all the time.
Erin Holt 6:54
Oh God, that phone thing on both sides. Yes. This is one thing that sounds so easy and simple, yet it’s a place where everybody can check themselves.
How critical are you being of her inside of your head? Because she can feel that energy, even if your words are saying something nice. If you’re also very judgmental and critical of her even if you don’t say it out loud she can feel your vibration and energy.
So just getting really honest about that, and asking yourself: can you start looking for three things you love about her every day? Genuinely love about her. Even if she’s not in that state right now like maybe you used to really love her smile, or how she’s athletic and takes care of herself, or whatever it is start looking for those things so you can shift your energetic and emotional presence around her.
It’s a quick and easy way to do it that’s really straightforward and you’d be surprised how much you can catch yourself being critical and mean of your partner inside your head. It makes a really big difference. You start looking for the best in somebody or remembering what you actually like about them.
We know you love them but what do you actually like and honor and respect? That’s a really good place to start.
And then also, with this whole phone thing it’s just a thing, right? It’s not a phone anymore. It’s the whole world inside of there. Maybe make some agreements and boundaries around phones. It sounds silly to say that, and yet I have conversations with my clients about this all the time.
The world we live in requires phone boundaries. It just does. Figure out what works for you and your family. Try some things maybe there’s no phones after seven, or maybe there’s a phone basket. Let’s not have phones at the dinner table that seems simple, but people still do it. I don’t enjoy that, and I don’t know anybody who does.
I don’t think we’ve quite understood how much our phones are robbing our capacity for attention it’s really robbing our people.
So actually being able to give your woman undivided attention is legit a superpower that you will have with her. The phone is so shiny and steals our attention, and growing your capacity for attention again it’s probably diminished because everybody’s has. So that would be a really cool and easy place to start. That’s pretty straightforward. I’d say those two things are really powerful and easy and they don’t require, you know, a seven-step program.
Doug Holt 9:37
Okay, awesome. I know some of the guys are gonna be thinking, “Well, I try to set boundaries, and she’s just in it.” To me, the phone’s just a symptom of something else, right of what the root cause is. Why would she and I’m not saying men don’t do these things but from a female’s perspective, why is she in her phone rather than connecting with her husband?
Erin Holt 10:00
Oh, there could be so many things. It’s easier than facing it it’s easier to avoid the red flag than face it, right? It just is. Whether that’s the phone, a bottle of wine, a bag of chips whatever you find yourself at the bottom of. We’ve all been there. That’s usually why.
Doug Holt 10:18
Okay, so she’s avoiding some things you were saying.
Erin Holt 10:22
I mean, yes. And also the extreme dopamine hit we all get from scrolling, right? We know this is happening, and still, we as adults with full-grown brains find ourselves buried in our phones. I mean, like what am I doing here? Where am I giving my time, energy, and attention? Stop and think about it it’s really robbing a lot of relationships.
Doug Holt 10:41
Absolutely. As I’m thinking about what a man would do I know so many guys ask you questions when you come to the Alpha Resets, when you do the master classes. What are some of the questions the guys ask you from a female perspective?
Erin Holt 10:56
Okay, one that’s pretty common is this: let me think for a minute. The quintessential couple working really hard to reconnect after a break in connection for whatever reason. And I hear this a lot, because I’m talking to the men in the program. They’ll say, “Okay, I’ve made all these efforts to reconnect with her,” and it usually goes one of two ways.
The first way is that she’s like, “Oh my God, finally there you are!” Because women, we see our man’s potential way before you do sometimes, and we really want to do our best, when we’re our most loving selves, to help you rise up into that highest version of yourself. So that can go that way “Oh my gosh, thank you so much, here you are. I knew this version of you was in there. I’ve been waiting for you. Thank you for doing this yourself and for me not making me carry you.” Because we know that doesn’t work.
Or, it goes the other way, where it’s been five, ten, fifteen years of disconnection and her wanting a different connection with you and then the man changes, and she goes even more prickly in his experience. More cold, more defensive, because she’s like, “Look, I’ve held hope for you and your potential for X number of years, and now you’re doing this thing?” She almost has to test you before she allows herself to get her hopes up again. She’s like, “I can’t go through another round of hope with you it’s killing me on the inside.”
That’s the version of it from a woman’s side. She’s testing you, testing you, testing you from that place, because she’s sick of running on hope. And so if you can, as a man, keep showing up as the highest version of yourself the man you know you are deep down inside the husband you’re proud of, the businessperson you’re proud of, the father you’re proud of because that’s who you are and you stick to it with consistency, most of the time she will come around and be like, “Okay, this is no longer just hope. This is becoming our reality now.”
And then she can dip her toe in and start to trust this not just live from, “Oh, I see your potential, I hope you show up to it.” I hear that question all the time, and that’s where she’s coming from.
Another question I hear it’s totally different is about stepping into parenthood. This honestly could be a whole podcast by itself. How to support a woman during postpartum, and just even understanding that process it’s incredible. We are the portals that bring humans into this world. It is dramatic. It can be traumatic. It can be beautiful. It changes us on a cellular level. It changes our brains the way our brains work. We will not be the same person, and that’s very hard for us.
There’s literally a grieving period and a mourning period for losing your old self. There is, after every child. Nobody told me that I wish I would have known that. Just even knowing that about your partner makes a huge difference.
There’s also a drastic change in hormones I’ve never felt anything so dramatic. And if you think about it, I mean, I’m not gonna go into all the details here, but we grew a human, birthed a human, we’re changing back, healing, producing milk maybe or maybe not and it’s just insane. It’s literally the most beautiful, the most insane, the hardest thing I’ve ever done physically, emotionally, spiritually. It’s the biggest, most spiritual portal a woman can go through.
And I know stepping into fatherhood is huge for men as well. Just be a tender place to land. Protect her healing. They say six weeks but I’ll tell you what it’s much longer than six weeks. Protect her healing, particularly if she’s the one breastfeeding or doing the majority of the feedings, which are around the clock with newborns. Pick up something either get meal service, get cleaners, you do the meals, you do the cleaning. Protect her healing.
A lot of damage can be done emotionally and physically if that’s not protected.
Doug Holt 15:26
Well, that’s one of the questions I get from the men to ask you or that I get a lot and we’ve talked about it, Dr. Murray’s talked about it is perimenopause, menopause. That’s the other end of the story. It’s the same thing though, right? It’s the hormonal changes, the shifts that occur in a woman, and the man not understanding those changes or how to deal with them.
Erin Holt 15:50
I say it’s almost like puberty in reverse. If people can remember puberty that wild ride you’re just all of a sudden so different. Everything feels different in your world. I’m definitely in perimenopause, and the way I can describe it from the woman’s point of view, from two different angles, is this: I started to feel like I was losing grip.
We have young children, there’s constant patience required, and I felt like nobody could see me not even watch anybody but I felt like my patience was constantly right on the edge, no matter what. And that is not generally how I operate.
Doug Holt 16:27
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Erin Holt 17:21
I felt like I was always right close to snapping. That’s not who I usually am. I started to get anxiety again never had anxiety in my life, maybe just little periods during big changes, but I’m not an anxious person. I just felt like I was off, and that’s really a general statement, but that’s how everyone says it because you’re just not yourself.
The rest of life is the same, and you’re expected to be the same, but you’re not. I’m on bioidentical hormones now, and I feel way better. I just felt like I wasn’t myself. I’ve been an athlete my whole life used to be a strength coach, used to run a gym with Doug, training clients and I know what to do. But my body was out of my control. I couldn’t build muscle the way I used to, couldn’t burn fat the way I used to. It was just very strange to be in a body that felt not like mine anymore, and it’s unsettling.
It’s really unsettling from the woman’s side. Sleep’s affected. I mean, if you sit down and look at a book, I can’t remember exactly what it is, but I think there are like 108 symptoms and no joke, actual symptoms, which is wild. Brain fog, memory loss it’s scary. It’s freaky. You just all of a sudden feel like you’re declining, and even using that language feels scary.
The scariest part is that although it’s becoming so much better now there hasn’t been a lot of training for people on how to provide help for women in perimenopause, even though every single woman will go through it in some way, shape, or form. That’s improving, but I had to be my own advocate. It wasn’t easy to find a doctor I aligned with or to find hormones that were monitored and adjusted properly.
I had to find the support I needed through a few different channels and be really diligent about it. I’m very fortunate that I can do that I have the bandwidth, the background, and the finances to manage it. But there are lots of online options now, like MIDI Health and others, where people can go for support. Because generally, your OB-GYN without putting them down has very little training in it.
It’s a huge journey, and honoring it from the man’s side is important it’s a very big deal. The reason our hormones are changing is because we’re no longer going to be birthing babies. But on the other side of that, we step into a power we’ve never experienced before. It’s very different it becomes a portal into another level of ourselves now that our bodies are not cycling for the purpose of having babies.
So there’s a whole other side of us that comes online. Just knowing even that little bit of information about it and doing your due diligence if you’re with a woman can make a huge difference. Learn about it so you can understand what’s happening and be educated, like you would about anything else.
Doug Holt 20:22
Awesome. Going back to the original topic of the “roommates,” what I call roommates of the ring, right? That can occur after a big shift like this perimenopause, postpartum depression, or things like that. Nature can cause the rift, and if the partner in this case, the man doesn’t know how to deal with it, a lot of times he’ll just retreat into work, thinking, “Okay, I’ll just focus over here and take care of my family.”
Because it feels safe. I’d say from a man’s point of view, it might be a little different, but I can understand how that could look from a woman’s perspective. I think a lot of men do that because it feels safe, but they’re also thinking, “Well, I want to do something, and this is what I can do. If I can’t fix her or help her through this, then what I can do is make more money so we can get the meal service, the cleaners, or whatever we need.”
When we get through this, we’ll have more income. This is something I can contribute the provider mentality comes through. But I can also see how, from a woman’s point of view, that can look like being abandoned.
Erin Holt 21:40
Abandoned and avoided. I’ll also say and I might have said it before but just to be very clear, especially at both ends: postpartum lasts a lot longer than you think. I think it took me about two years after each child to feel like myself again, which I imagine feels like forever for you guys but it also feels like forever for us.
It’s like, “What just happened? I’m so happy, but what just happened?”
And also just know with all the crazy hormonal changes and lack of sleep we need a safe place to have a cry. I don’t think I’ve ever cried as much as I did during postpartum. Oh man, I remember it’s such a beautiful, challenging time.
Doug Holt 22:23
We had our last kid during COVID. Oh boy. We moved to a new community don’t recommend and that was with no family around. Much more severe than the first, from my perspective.
Erin Holt 22:35
It was incredibly severe. I should have gotten help looking back. I don’t think anybody who birthed a baby during the height of COVID did very well. That was a rough one. Isolation is not good for that situation.
Doug Holt 22:49
No, no. And as a guy even knowing what I know I was like, how do I fix this? How do I solve this problem? And also, during that time, trying to grow and run a business stressful. I was a CEO of another company. I was still running a couple other companies.
Erin Holt 23:06
Couldn’t invite help into your home, because, you know, who knows what’s going on? I’m sure we’re talking to a lot of people that can relate. It was a very stressful, strange, bizarre time.
Doug Holt 23:15
Super stressful. Even for us you and I have done so much work, individually and collectively it still put a massive strain on our relationship.
Erin Holt 23:24
Yes.
Doug Holt 23:25
And luckily, when you figured out what you needed to fix, we got
Erin Holt 23:31
Hilarious. Hilarious.
Doug Holt 23:32
Anybody that’s watched this show or listened to the show knows that I joke around a lot it’s just part of my personality. Again, so I picture this guy listening to us he’s on the treadmill right now and he’s like, “Okay, but my wife and I are disconnected. We’re roommates. We talk about logistics, we have a budget meeting, or she’s mad because I didn’t do the friggin’ dishes.” You know, there’s that resentment that starts to build up over time we call it mud on the glass.
Let’s go with we’ll end this with three things from a woman’s perspective that he can do, and I’ll give three things from a man’s perspective that he can do.
Erin Holt 24:12
Okay, why don’t you go first while I think about three things.
Doug Holt 24:15
Three’s my favorite number, yep. So first and foremost, I think he should call out what it is. Go up to her and be light and joking about it. Say, “Babe, I think we’ve become roommates and you didn’t marry me to be a roommate. I didn’t marry you to be a roommate. I still think you’re fine as hell. You’re beautiful. You’re the only woman I want to be with, and I want to get that spark back in our relationship so we can make this more fun. Because we deserve more than average you deserve more than average and I do too. I want to make this not a good marriage, but a great marriage.”
We’ve fallen into the trap where we’re sitting on the couch, stuck in routines, and it’s not working. So that’s step one just call out the obvious. She knows the marriage sucks. You know the marriage sucks. Or even if it doesn’t suck if it’s just average that sucks, because you deserve more than average. So I would just call it out and take the leadership role of being the one that calls out the obvious.
Erin Holt 25:15
I love that. I was going to say something similar actually naming what’s going on instead of avoiding it. And again, doing it in a way where there’s no shame, zero blame, and also acknowledging that you still want to be with her.
Say things like, “You are my man. I want you. I want our marriage to deepen. I want to feel more connected to you.” From a woman’s side, she might say, “Our marriage really matters to me, and you’re really important to me. I want this to be the best marriage ever, because we chose to be married. Let’s put the effort into this that’s required to make it amazing.”
Lots of reassurance, love, kindness, sweetness, and softening.
Doug Holt 26:05
Awesome. The second one I would tell the guy and you’re talking to guys too, just from a woman’s point of view the second thing I’d say is: do something fun.
Come up with something fun. A staycation could be fun. Throw a blanket on the ground, have pizza and a movie. There are all kinds of ways you can make it fun. Do something different that you don’t normally do. Don’t think just going out to dinner is a date make it a thing.
Pickleball seems to be sweeping the nation the last couple of years, right? Take a pickleball course together, a class. Work out, move your body, do something together. Go on an adventure. Take a night hike do something adventurous and invite her in.
Both of you trying something new puts you in that curiosity mindset that I think could be really good.
Erin Holt 27:02
Okay, a couple of things feeding off that. The reason why Doug’s saying that there are many reasons but one of the things that can happen is, if you two take an “us against the problem” approach the problem being, “We’re roommates; this is not a place we want to live; we want more than this” you’re solving the problem together. It releases a hormone called vasopressin. It’s the bonding hormone that shows up when you build or create with someone.
Think about if you built a business with someone you’re bonded because you’re solving a problem together, not against one another. It’s a very different energy.
And also, on that note, maybe think back to some of the fun things you did in the beginning when you were dating. You might’ve been broke, like Doug and I were. Some of our dates weren’t expensive but were the best ones Brooklyn. I knew exactly what you were thinking of. Doug will explain what Brooklyn is.
Those date nights were the best, and they were where we were at financially. We look back at them fondly because they were really simple hikes, picnics, easy things. You don’t have to spend the money. Honestly, the dates where you don’t spend a lot are often the most thoughtful ones.
So when we say “fun,” it doesn’t have to mean a ten-day cruise that costs fifteen grand. No keep it simple. Simple is effective because you can actually repeat it.
Doug Holt 28:17
100%. A third and last one that I’ll leave the gents with is improve yourself. Be on a path of growth, and that’s your individual journey. That makes your stock go up it makes you more attractive.
For the other person, if you’re constantly doing the same things, it can become dull and boring. We were talking with another couple in our backyard we had a big fire pit going and one of the comments I made was, I can get into a show for the first season, but it becomes obvious that the writers didn’t expect it to go into a second season.
Everybody’s experienced this: the first season is great, but the second season’s plotline sucks it’s boring, repetitive, formulaic. I used to like that show Blacklist, but it got so predictable I lost interest.
And I think relationships marriages in particular can become that way. They become like the 20th season of Blacklist.
So switch it up. Change it up. When you’re growing, you’re always changing it up. There’s something new about you that makes your partner go, “Huh? What’s he doing now? That’s interesting.” By adding that mystery, you’re adding curiosity.
If she sees you growing and she’s not, there might be a little worry there like, “Wait a minute, he’s improving, I’m not.” That’s not a bad thing. It might inspire her to raise her bar or at least start paying attention.
Erin Holt 30:12
On that note, yes and I’ll say from the woman’s side, it’s sexy to watch your man grow, learn, and expand. Develop a new skill, push himself in business, health, or fatherhood whatever it is.
It’s reassuring when he says, “I want to be the best man for me and for our marriage.” It’s not about growing to outgrow her that’s a totally different energy.
Just to make it clear, because that can feel scary if there’s not a little reassurance there. A simple, “I’m doing this to be the best version of me for me, for us,” goes a long way. It takes away that little subconscious fear that whispers, “Is he growing away from me?” That reassurance changes everything.
Doug Holt 31:03
And I think it can be healthy too. If you’re growing and I’m not, regardless of why you’re growing, that’s not a good dynamic. You’ll notice it, I’ll notice it, other men will notice it.
So that makes me go, “Okay, I’ve got to step my game up.” That’s healthy jealousy, or healthy competitiveness. There’s a healthy level of that.
Now, to your point if you’re doing it outwardly, for appearances that’s different energy altogether. But every time I start doing something new working out more, changing my diet you definitely notice. You take note, like, “Hey, what are you doing? Why are you doing that?” And I think that’s a good thing.
Erin Holt 32:21
Yep, I do it a little differently. I just do it quietly and you sit back and watch.
Doug Holt 32:26
Like, “Oh, okay, I know you.”
Erin Holt 32:30
I know you. No, you’re right. I agree. It’s also healthy for partners to do something together whatever it is and also healthy to have something that’s just yours. Whether it’s work, a coaching program, or learning a skill you’ve always wanted to learn. It’s good to have something that belongs to you, too.
Doug Holt 32:54
100% agree. Awesome. Well, thank you for all you do for our family, for me, for TPM, and for the men here consistently showing up at events and on the podcast, giving men an opportunity to hear a woman’s point of view, and giving women an opportunity to be heard.
I know you don’t speak for all women I always joke about that because I know it’s the opposite you’re cautious about that. You provide, as I do for men, a general perspective that represents a lot of people. And I appreciate it.
Erin Holt 33:27
Thanks for having me on and inviting me into all the things.
Doug Holt 33:31
You’re welcome. Gentlemen, there you have it a woman’s point of view. This might not be specific to your wife’s point of view, but in my experience, Erin hits 90% of them out there.
Take what she’s telling you. This is what your woman could be experiencing. I know when we were going through the COVID postpartum thing I didn’t really know what to do. And I’ve had a lot of training in this. I was trying and trying and trying.
It was easier to say, “Hey, at least I can build the business, build revenue, build something for our family.” What I could’ve done better was communicate that to Erin during that time.
You have the opportunity to learn from my mistakes as well as from Erin’s perspective of what your wife could be going through right now.
So take this as an opportunity: if your relationship’s stale, if you’re finding yourself a roommate with a ring, then do something different. We both gave you three things some overlap and those overlapping ones? Double down on them.
Whatever you do, in the moment of insight, take massive action. We’ll see you next time on The TPM Show.