Episode #1202
The fourth quarter brings a unique collision of professional pressures and domestic expectations for married business owners and executives. As the end of the year approaches, businessmen face intense revenue targets, annual reviews, and operational deadlines. When work slows down for the holidays, men often return home feeling exhausted, disconnected, or treated like a guest rather than a partner. At the same time, wives frequently shoulder the heavy mental load of family logistics, hosting duties, and holiday preparations, leading to silent exhaustion and resentment on both sides.
In this conversation, Doug Holt and his wife Erin examine why the holiday season causes severe marital friction and how couples can proactively plan to prevent relationship breakdown. Statistically, the first Monday of January is known in legal circles as “Divorce Day,” marking the highest annual spike in divorce filings as partners decide not to carry another year of disappointment into the future. Rather than stepping back, throwing up your hands, or passively waiting for instructions, husbands can apply executive planning skills to their personal lives well before Q4 begins.
The discussion outlines practical steps to eliminate holiday friction and co-create meaningful family experiences:
Planning ahead transforms a high-stress period into an opportunity for deep partnership. By learning to navigate unmet expectations and paying attention to warning signs in marriage, men can replace holiday fatigue with genuine connection and grounded leadership.
00:00 - Introduction: Why Q4 Business Planning Should Include Your Marriage
01:35 - The Reality of “Divorce Day” and Post-Holiday Separation Trends
03:25 - Why Business Owners Struggle and Become Grumpy During the Holidays
05:19 - Feeling Like a Paycheck vs. Carrying the Mental Load of Hosting
07:34 - Avoiding the Passive Trap: Why Throwing Your Hands Up Fails
09:25 - Understanding Different Family Blueprints and Tradition Expectations
10:36 - Doug Holt Mid-Roll: A Man’s Guide on How to Save Your Marriage
11:35 - Co-Creating Magic and Setting Intentions for the Season
13:16 - Resolving Holiday Traditions: Childhood Memories vs. Core Family Priorities
15:29 - Matching Outcomes and Feelings: Planning Food, Travel, and Hosting
18:02 - Anticipating Needs: Moving Away from “What Can I Do?”
20:48 - Reflecting on Past Holidays: Diagnosing What Worked and What Didn’t
23:33 - Supporting Your Spouse Through Grief and Absent Family Members
25:36 - Closing Remarks and Taking Massive Action
Why do so many divorces happen right after the holiday season?
Divorces spike in early January because partners often wait through the holidays for the sake of children or family traditions. Unaddressed resentment, unequal sharing of the mental load, and financial or scheduling stress cause partners to finalize separations once the season ends.
How can a husband take initiative during the holidays without being told what to do?
Husbands can take initiative by anticipating household tasks rather than asking “What can I do?”, which adds to a wife’s managerial load. Taking total ownership of specific responsibilities like meal preparation, gift logistics, or cleaning closes operational loops independently.
How do couples resolve conflicting holiday traditions from their childhoods?
Couples should sit down weeks in advance to discuss their intentions, desired emotional outcomes, and core priorities. Aligning on how to handle in-laws, travel, and core family time prevents last-minute arguments and ensures both partners feel respected.
How does Q4 business stress impact a marriage during the holidays?
Business owners face end-of-year deadlines, revenue targets, and operational stress that can lead to physical burnout or emotional withdrawal when work stops. Proactively communicating schedule constraints and scheduling decompression time helps husbands show up with presence rather than irritability.
If your marriage is struggling with communication breakdowns, distance, or a loss of trust, claim your copy of Doug Holt’s book, A Man’s Guide on How to Save Your Marriage Without Talking About It, to start taking massive action today. You can also discover how to assess your relationship dynamics and learn our step-by-step methodology by watching the free video training at The Powerful Man Scales.
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Doug Holt 00:00
One of the biggest things that causes strife in a marriage is the holidays.
Erin Holt 00:05
Let's make it magical, even if it's just the two of you.
Doug Holt 00:07
Most men, in this case, choose just to step out and throw their hands up and say, "Screw it! This is her deal."
Erin Holt 00:14
There's a lot of emotions around this time of year for many different reasons.
Doug Holt 00:16
Most divorces happen right after the holidays.
Erin Holt 00:20
What can you do to make it special, magical, enjoyable, feel good?
Doug Holt 00:24
Asking what I can do only puts another burden on her.
Hey guys, welcome to the TPM Show. Just yesterday, I had a meeting with my executive team, and we were planning Q4, as you do, right? All the goals, opportunities, the typical things that a business owner would go through with his executive team.
That got me thinking: if we're planning Q4 now, what else is happening? Well, one of the biggest things that causes strife in a marriage is the holidays. So why aren't we planning for that now? And that's exactly what we're going to talk about on this episode of the TPM Show.
Erin, babe, thanks for being here. I feel like I have to introduce you as Erin, but I'm like, I never call you Erin unless I'm mad at you.
We didn't prep for this at all, and luckily Mr. C, who does the production over here, came up with this idea, which I think is great because literally I was on a six-hour Zoom call just the other day, and we were doing our quarterly review, reviewing the past quarter, but probably equally as important, planning this quarter coming into it.
In this quarter, we have some major holidays that people celebrate. In the States, it's going to be Thanksgiving and Christmas for the most part, but obviously you have other religious holidays that come in with that. The UK, Canada, everybody's got their version of the holidays coming.
Something that I've noticed over the 10 years of doing this work with TPM is most divorces happen right after the holidays.
Doug Holt 02:17
The wife is waiting for that one last Christmas with everybody, or that one last holiday season, New Year's, or whatever else it is. The first Monday of the new year is called Divorce Day, and that's when lawyers know that most of the divorces are going to be filed.
For those that don't know, over 70% of divorces are filed by the woman. If she's got a college degree or higher, which most of our men's wives do, it's 90%. Think about that for a second. 90% filed by the woman, and most of those happen after the holidays.
So let's talk about what we could do today to prevent being in that statistic.
Erin Holt 03:05
Gosh, yeah, I feel like holidays obviously bring up
Doug Holt 03:08
Oh, why don't you say what you said off-air?
Erin Holt 03:10
So many things. I said, "Guys, don't be a grump."
Oh man, I'm saying that because I hear a version of that from a lot of women. It's like, "Gosh, my husband's just so grumpy during holiday season. It's supposed to be joyous, and he's grumpy."
Doug Holt 03:25
I can tell you why.
Erin Holt 03:28
Tell us why.
Doug Holt 03:29
For a lot of men, there's different reasons. At TPM, our main focus are business owners and executives. We do have a program called Navigate, which is for non-business owners. We don't talk about it that much. We just have so many men trying to get in, and the business owners who go through our program have such amazing changes, they want their teams to go through, their staff.
But for the business owners, there's a number of things. They're closing the year. They're hitting projections. Stress is higher. If you're in retail, it's a whole other ball game.
But taking that time off work is two things. One, it's the first time they slow down. So for a lot of the guys, when they slow down, they get sick. I did that for a long time.
Erin Holt 04:15
Oh, we knew that pattern.
Doug Holt 04:16
Oh yeah, we were in that pattern.
Erin Holt 04:17
Yep.
Doug Holt 04:18
So they get sick. The second thing is they are so disconnected from their families that they feel like a stranger in their own home.
The third thing that happens is they actually have downtime to do more strategy-type work or digging in, and they're starting to find a lot of problems. "Oh crap! Why didn't intake do this?" Or operations, and they start to notice these things.
They also have their vendors and everybody else doing the same thing. So there's a pressure to hit this timeline. We set a revenue target for the end of the year. All of these things start coming out of the woodwork.
So for them, it's a high-pressure time, and then they feel obligated sometimes to take the time off work. They come back to them, their wife seems stressed. That's what they would say. Their wife is high-strung, trying to make the house perfect, like Martha Stewart, or spending a lot of money.
Erin Holt 05:19
I think it's deeper than that, but yeah.
Doug Holt 05:21
Sure. No, but I'm just giving you the just like you said, "He's grumpy." I'm giving you the other perspective. That's deeper than him just being grumpy.
He's got all these things going in his head, and some guys are starting to go, "Am I just a paycheck here? Am I just a paycheck?"
That's when, quite honestly, more men than you would ever even imagine are thinking, "Maybe I'm better off dead. Maybe I'm better off leaving this earth."
Doug Holt 05:50
Because if they're not connected to their family and they are just a paycheck, why not clock out and let the family get the insurance money? I've heard this from hundreds of guys.
Erin Holt 05:59
It's so sad.
Doug Holt 06:00
It is sad. They're in a dark place, and there's a lot of men. I can tell you statistically, and I have so many conversations with men, there's a lot of guys listening to this right now who are considering it.
I'm here to let you guys know, if you're listening to this and you're considering ending your life, you're looking for a long-term solution to a short-term problem, and it's not the right solution. So reach out. Talk to somebody. If you're in the community, reach out. Reach out to me. Reach out to anybody. All the men in our community, there's thousands of guys, are there for you.
Having said that, going back to the holidays, you now have two people who are running a home almost like a business. Most likely, she's a little bit more in her masculine than she wants to be. He has probably said, "Forget about it. I'll just let her do what she wants to do. It's an important holiday to her, and I'll just wait for her to ask me what needs to be done, and begrudgingly, maybe I'll do it. I'm gonna watch football and "
Erin Holt 07:05
Sounds awful. All the things.
Doug Holt 07:06
No, but I mean, I think this is how it plays out, right?
Erin Holt 07:08
Yeah, sounds awful.
Doug Holt 07:09
And so she's probably pissed that he's not helping out more. She's stressed out. Are the kids coming home? Who's coming around? Do I need to go to my mom's house? All of these things are coming up for her as well.
Most men, in this case, choose just to step out and throw their hands up and say, "Screw it! This is her deal." And she's looking for support, help
Erin Holt 07:34
A partner.
Doug Holt 07:35
Partnership, yeah.
They haven't talked about their vision, what this looks like, or how to do it differently. Did last year work? And if it didn't, what could you do to make sure this year works?
It's funny. Gosh, how old was I? Maybe 20 or so. I worked at South Coast Plaza. It's a huge mall in Orange County, and I worked in a company called the Learning Smith. I mean, I was 19, but I was the stockroom manager, and I did sales on the floor.
This is a company that sold educational toys for kids and adults. On about the 23rd of December, guys would walk in stressed out and just grab whatever else was left on the shelf just so they had a gift.
I thought to myself, this day in December comes every year on the same day. What they were buying kids' toys for their wife because they knew that they had to get her something was better than nothing, or they thought.
I would watch this in absolute amazement. They didn't care what the price was at that time. They just wanted to find a store that was open where they could get something to put under the tree.
What I'm saying now to all the men and women listening to this: you know the 25th is coming up in December. You know when Thanksgiving is in your country, whatever holiday it is, and take whatever religion. You have church, Hanukkah, whatever. I don't want to exclude anybody, so please understand that's not my intent.
You know when this is happening. You know, at a base level, what some expectations are. How can you make it fun?
Erin Holt 09:25
Yeah, so many layers here, coming in from different angles. But also, you have two people that married that came from different traditions and households, how you did things or how you didn't do things, expectations of how things are going to be done or who handles what.
It all sounds so basic, but I can tell you, I talk to women, and it's like
Doug Holt 09:43
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Erin Holt 10:36
Yes, it's a really trying time. Especially if you have kids, as the mom, and in particular the woman, you want to be the magic maker. You want it to feel really special and have the traditions and the memories, and just have that magical time when your kids are young and it's under your roof.
Then once they're bigger and come back home, you just want it to feel good and be so special for everybody. When they look back, they're like, "Oh gosh, those were really fun times," right?
When we talk about the doom and gloom of it, where it can land, as you're describing, my whole body was like, "Oh my God, this is heavy and feels awful."
If you've done that in the past, that's great. Acknowledge that, and then it's like, let's make it magical, even if it's just the two of you.
What new traditions do you want to start or implement together? Be like, "Wow, we do this now."
Do we see in-laws before and then be at home on the actual day of the holiday with just your core family, and then the other side of the in-laws the weekend after? What can you figure out where needs are getting met, that everybody gets to say?
If your partner has needs of, "This is really important to me," if it's important to your partner, you've got to really look at the level of, it's important to you because you're doing life with this person. You're creating a home with this person. You're probably creating a family with this person.
If it matters to them
Erin Holt 12:03
It matters to them for a reason. Even if for you it's like, "That's not important to me," meet in the middle on some of them.
But sometimes you're just like, "This matters to my person, so we're gonna make it happen."
Doug Holt 12:15
Yeah, I think that's huge. I grew up hating Christmas.
Erin Holt 12:19
I grew up loving Christmas.
Doug Holt 12:20
I know, and we've had conflict during Christmas because I never want my kids to repeat what I had to go through to cause me to hate Christmas.
Erin Holt 12:29
Which was?
Doug Holt 12:31
I had divorced parents, so I always felt like I was letting somebody down.
Erin Holt 12:37
You're pulled in both directions.
Doug Holt 12:38
Pulled in both directions all the time.
Literally, when I got older in my teenage years and I could drive, I would drive 120 miles an hour on the 55 freeway, 405, if you know Orange County, trying to get to my mom's house because she was hurt and upset that we were at my dad's first, and she would call every 10 minutes.
Erin Holt 13:01
That's so hard.
Doug Holt 13:01
It sucked, and my dad was pissed because we were leaving early. In his eyes, we were leaving earlier than agreed. In my mom's eyes, we weren't there enough.
It got to a point where it was like, "I don't want to do this."
My hill I was willing to die on was my kids will always have Christmas in their home. I will die on that hill. And for you, you're like, "I've always done Christmas with extended family."
Erin Holt 13:27
Oh my gosh. I can still think about it now and smile. My whole body feels joy.
So many good core memories. We usually celebrated with my dad's side of the family on Christmas Eve, and just a magical time there and traditions of how we did that.
Then with my mom's side of the family, we did it either the weekend before or the weekend after Christmas, and then at home for actual Christmas Day.
It was just literal joy, is all I remember. So much fun, so much connection and magic.
Doug Holt 13:56
That's probably the only thing I can point out that you and I've had a big disagreement around the holidays on. Otherwise, we're pretty much aligned on most everything else. There's little details here and there, maybe, perhaps, but nothing major.
There's nothing that neither of us are like, "Whatever. That's important to you. Cool, let's do it."
Something I want to impart on everybody else, though, is something I think we do really well is communicating way before, like, "Hey, what do we want this to look like? What do we want this to feel like?"
I use Thanksgiving as an example, and this is not to make anybody wrong or right, but I'm more of, "Everybody's included."
There's been times where you're like, "No, let's just have our core family here." I'm like, "Cool." I want to have a house where anybody can come.
There's been times when you're like, "I just want us." Since those times were more important to you than they were to me to be all-inclusive, I'm like, "Cool. Let's just do our family then," right?
Erin Holt 14:59
Different season, different years.
Doug Holt 15:00
Yeah, but it's that collaboration, like you're talking about.
If it's important to your person and it's not as important to you, then make a concession. You're in partnership together.
You and I sit down and we ask this a lot: "What do we want this season to look like? What do we want this holiday season to look like?"
Oftentimes, we talk about we use the word intention a lot or feelings. How do we want to feel for everybody? What do we want the outcome to be?
Doug Holt 15:29
Which works really well for me as a businessman because I can hit outcomes, right?
Erin Holt 15:33
Feelings work really well for me.
Doug Holt 15:35
I know. That's why we talk about both of them.
When we make the feeling the outcome, I'm like, you're pointing my energy and attention right towards solving a problem, which I like to do.
That's about knowing your partner.
What kind of gift-giving do we want to do? Do we want to give our kids a lot of material things, or do we want to do events? Do we want to impart lessons to them? How do we want to feel?
For Thanksgiving, do we want to make our own food, or maybe we'll just have it catered, and that way nobody stresses about cooking because it's all about spending time with your family?
One of the greatest things my dad ever did is, my parents would alternate Thanksgivings. My mom's, it was great, but the adults were stressed out of their minds cooking all day.
Erin Holt 16:29
It started before that day, but yes.
Doug Holt 16:31
But you get the idea.
Then my dad one time just goes, "This is all about family," and he ordered out Thanksgiving, which was weird because we'd never done it before. But guess what we did? We hung out all day.
He reheated the turkey, and it was good.
Erin Holt 16:47
Yeah. Once I came in and we started dating and became part of your family, you're like, "Yeah, we take out for Thanksgiving."
I was like, "I didn't even know we could do that." My dad didn't even know we could do that because I came from a family where everything was made from scratch.
The amount of work
Doug Holt 17:03
Is insane.
Erin Holt 17:04
Massive.
Because you're hosting, what, anywhere from probably 10 to 25 people, and want it to be good and all the things. It's wonderful, but it's a huge undertaking.
Doug Holt 17:15
And cleanup and everything else that goes with it.
Erin Holt 17:16
So much work.
Doug Holt 17:17
Again, my dad decided, what's the outcome here? This is all about connection and family more than eating homemade food. That was a secondary thing.
Whereas my mom's, I still had a great time at my mom's because I was a kid, right? Because I didn't have to do any of it.
Erin Holt 17:32
Sure, not responsible.
Doug Holt 17:33
But I remember it, right? I remember the stress. I remember some people snapping and not being their best, and that stuck with me. I have those memories as a kid because we did it with another family all the time.
I don't remember all of it, but in particular, the father, the other father. I don't remember all the good things that he did, and I know he did a lot because, as an adult, hindsight's 20/20.
But what I do remember in detail are some of the times he snapped because of the stress. It's interesting that those things stick with us.
So we're looking at this idea of how do we plan for the holiday season so we don't end up with our wife on Divorce Day sitting with the attorney because she's like, "You know what? I'm gonna have one more time with the kids together, one more time with the family together, and then I'm out."
I think the first thing we're saying is sit down and talk about what you want it to look like. What do the holidays look like for you? What's important?
Is going to church or synagogue or whatever else it is important to you? I know blended families that will celebrate both religions or nothing, but they talk about it and they make key decisions on what they want to do.
So that's the first thing. What do we want it to look and feel like?
Guys, a hint is your wife wants to know what it feels like, probably, and you might want to know what it looks like. Then planning ahead of time.
If you like gift-giving, or if your wife or partner if receiving gifts is one of her love languages start thinking about that gift now.
Because I've been there where you're like, "Oh shit." I've been the guy. Not on the 23rd, but close enough, because I always remember that guy. I can really picture one guy running in, just so frantic when I was there at the store.
You know that date's coming. What can you do today? Just like you would prepare for a business thing that's happening, a business event, a quarterly, an end-of-year meeting. You prep for it.
So what can you do today in the gift-giving?
Then I'd also say something that I think I'm getting better at, but a work in progress, is anticipate what needs to be done so you can contribute.
What I've learned over the years is, for Erin and I'm going to apply it to every woman that asking what I can do only puts another burden on her.
Every once in a while, you can do it. That's fine. But if you're always going, "What can I do? What can I do? What can I do?" you're just giving her more chores to figure out.
Erin Holt 20:15
More to manage.
Doug Holt 20:16
More to manage, versus just going, "You know what? I'm going to go in there. I'm going to take care of it."
Something we've done is, "Hey, I'll take care of the meat. All right, you got the sides," or vice versa, or trying to figure out something that we're going to do. Or, "I'll clean up, you cook," or whatever it may be.
Maybe it's just as simple as, for me as the man, walking around going, "Screw it, I don't know what to do. I'm just going to take the trash," because the trash needs to be taken out. Things need to be done. See it, do it.
Erin Holt 20:45
See it, do it. Yeah, I agree.
Doug Holt 20:48
Okay.
Erin Holt 20:50
I don't even need to expand on that. I think you said it well.
I hear it all the time from my clients. We've had to work through this. Just be as helpful as possible, just like you would be in business.
Of course, you're going to find something to do. You're going to finish the project. You're going to follow through. You're going to close the loop. Do the same thing at home.
Doug Holt 21:07
So I think another thing that could help guys out and families is sit down and reflect on past holidays or the past holiday seasons that have been good.
What are the wins? What are the good parts of those holidays? What have you really enjoyed? What haven't you enjoyed?
Have those conversations with your wife and reminisce because a lot of times we don't.
You and I have photos that go on our TV, run all day, and that's awesome. It's like a giant memory bank for us.
A lot of times I look at those photos and I'm like, "Oh yeah, that's right. I forgot about that moment. That was really fun."
Do those for the holidays. It's a good thing.
I'll also say, if you have been grumpy in the past, look back at past holidays that haven't gone well and diagnose them.
Are you drinking too much? A lot of people on the holidays take it as a time to imbibe a little bit more.
Are you just parking your butt on the couch watching football all day? Maybe that's a good thing, right?
The question I ask the guys always is, does that serve you to your highest level? Maybe it does. Maybe it's like, "This is my tradition. We watch the Macy's parade and football, and everybody gets to enjoy."
I know a lot of women who are football fanatics, so it doesn't have to be a man thing.
But does it serve you? And does it serve your house and what you're trying to achieve?
If it doesn't, now let's start planning for alternatives.
Maybe you have soda water during the holidays because in the past you've drank too much. Or maybe you watch some of the game, but you talk to your wife and say, "Hey, I want to watch these two games. They're important to me."
We'll leave football in the background, but we'll have Christmas music throughout the house, again, just as an example. Then I'll help out and get things set up.
There's so many things, but I guess the underlying current is: be proactive.
Erin Holt 23:11
It's simply, what can you do to make it special, magical, enjoyable, feel good for your household?
It sounds simple, but having these conversations, like Doug and I have been saying, it really matters. Really, really matters, because there's a lot of emotions around this time of year for many different reasons.
Doug Holt 23:33
Yeah. Well, we're at the age where my mother's no longer here. Your mother is going through a tough time.
Erin Holt 23:46
She has Alzheimer's and is in a home. You can say it. It's really hard.
Doug Holt 23:49
It's really hard.
Those emotions can come up, and I'm letting the guys in. I was just talking to a guy I'll just say I want to be careful on the timeline so people don't pick out who I'm talking about, or their partners don't but his wife lost someone very close to her, a family member.
She could be thinking of that family member during the holidays. It's a time where you start thinking about those people that we've lost. Check in with them. "Hey, how you doing?"
Erin Holt 24:18
We're just thinking of you.
Doug Holt 24:20
Just, "How are you doing with this? Your mom's not here." Either one of us could say that to each other. "How are you holding up with that? What's going on for you?"
Just let them know that you understand, that you're thinking of them, is a critically important thing.
Then also, if you have kids, kids are really important to you. What do you want your kids to remember? How do you want them to reflect on the holiday? How do you want them to feel?
Do you want them to remember the grumpy, stressed-out version of you and the things you didn't do, or what have you? Or do you want them to remember that their mom and dad were really connected and in love, holding hands on the couch?
These are all choices, and I think people forget that they're choices, and therefore they can affect the change of these choices.
Erin Holt 25:08
Yeah. I say let's make it magic.
Make it magic.
Doug Holt 25:14
Make it magic. I love it. Absolutely great.
Cool. This makes me think that we get to get together and talk about holiday things. It's time to do it.
Erin Holt 25:23
It's that time of year.
Doug Holt 25:23
It is that time of year, man. It came fast, didn't it?
Erin Holt 25:26
Sure did.
Doug Holt 25:27
And we're going to Spain here in one week.
Erin Holt 25:29
We are.
Doug Holt 25:30
Which I'm excited about.
Erin Holt 25:31
Me too.
Doug Holt 25:32
Awesome, babe. Thanks, always, for being on the show and bringing your insights.
Erin Holt 25:35
Yeah, I love being here.
Doug Holt 25:36
Awesome, gentlemen. In the moment of insight, take massive action.
What that means is, hey, the holidays are coming. I don't care what your religious beliefs are; you're probably going to be celebrating something during this next quarter. So why not make it great? Not average, not good, but great.
And what does that look like? The first thing comes with vision, just like in business. What is your vision for greatness during this last quarter? End the year strong, man. This is your opportunity.
Again, I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but if your wife's got a college degree or higher and you think things aren't working out, well, 90% of divorces are initiated by the woman in that case, and the majority happen the first Monday of the new year.
So what can you do to be on the other side of that? You want to keep your family together. I get it, and that's amazing. That's admirable.
Even if you and your wife are split up, you can still lead the relationship for your kids' sake, for your sake. But it starts with the vision. It starts with the plan. Start planning now. Start thinking about it.
For you guys that are in our private app and in the community, in the TPM community, start sharing ideas. We have a couple thousand men in there, brilliant minds. Let's start sharing ideas back and forth.
How can we make this truly magical so each one of us, each one of us, has an amazing holiday season, not only for our children, not only for our wives, but also for ourselves?
We'll see you next time on the TPM Show.